Night time downfalls???

[kb3]

Ladies,

After jumping on the bandwagon of Kellie's fab post about supporting one another to be binge free, I just wanted to run something past you all????

When do you ladies struggle the most?
Is it a particular time of month or day???
I don't just mean the physical action of the binge but the thoughts too.....

For me my mind is in a quandry, sometimes I can go a while on track no cravings whatsoever.... When following Wendy's plan to the book my hormones felt totally balance MOST of the time..... Apart from TOM!!!

But MOSTLY I honestly believe that 90% of the time I have an A1 diet until...... evening rolls around, why the struggles at night???
I just don't know??? Plus it is not always 'bad' foods but the clean foods..... too much of anything is not good for anyone...... that stuffed feeling????

I have not had a full out binge in quite a while but over Xmas my picking slipped back to it's old ways and the temptation grew..... I also had some testing emotional times and stressful things came up and that also threw me????

I want to get to the bottom of this, I know I am not the only one, I also recognise not having full blown all out is good, but treating food like an enemy and living around it on tippy toes forever is not good either...

I am enjoying R2D2 posts, that lady should write!!! Loving the questions the posts are making me ask to myself???

2010 has got to find us getting to the bottom of it.....
One eve after Xmas saw me in tears telling hubby that I cannot live with it controlling me...... The highs and the lows like a roller coaster...... that I just want to get off.

The problem is I feel on top of the world when I am training well and eating good foods and at the bottom of the barrel when my old picking ways and horrible thoughts creep back so why is that not enough to stop them???

Please ladies if you feel you can share, please post how it feels for you too......
There must be an answer out there??? Surely between us all we will get to the bottom of it......

I believe it is not just the 'action' of the binge that causes the hurt but the thought process and negativity before and after. or even if the action doesn't happen, the temptation to do it can surely be lost some how???

Love you all.

[Nic902]

I have been through the ups and downs...not just physically but mentally too. I have gone for months without binging, or even thinking of it..then I will fall back ito my old ways and its so hard to get back on track again. When I go so long without thoughts of binging...I make the mistake of thinking I'm 'fixed'' but its not that easy and then I tend to trip up. For me...its usually stress that sends me to food. I think its my way of numbing whatever I am feeling at the time...not to mention when I am in the binge-zone, I am focused on the food and the euphoria that goes with binging...which means my mind is distracted from whats REALLY bothering me. Then, the binge high wears off and I'm depressed I binged...so I binge again to numb that feeling and it just becomes a destrutive cycle.

As far a night time binging...that is very common and I think that its because the thoughts of the day have boiled up to that point, and we finally give in. Also, there is something about night time..like it can be our hidden, dark time to do things we are embarrassed or ashamed of.

Everyday, is still a struggle for me....so I dont have it all figured out but I'm working on it!

I have been reading the link to the blog that Rebecca posted...here are a few that really turned a light bulb on for me!:

[url=http://scottabel.blogspot.com/2006/11/recidivism-obsessive-compulsive.html]Scott Abel Blogs[/url]

[url=http://scottabel.blogspot.com/2006/11/obsessivecompulsive-behavior.html]Scott Abel Blogs[/url]

[Jaclyn Ball]

I struggle the most with the urge to binge at night because that is when I have always been alone. When I was in college, my roomie was rarely around at night. I was too busy during the day with classes and my job to think about binging. Also, after I was released from the hospital for anorexia, it was required that I have 3 meals and 3 snacks a day. At night, I would always over-do the snack because my parents were watching and I wanted to show them that I was eating. I just got in the habit of over eating at night and it has been a struggle to break it.

I agree with Nic in that the night time is when we have a chance to reflect on the present day and all of the emotions that we shoved in the back of our mind because we were too busy during the day to properly process it. Night time is also a time of boredome when we are looking for something to do. Usually, if we are obsessed with food or obsessed with controlling food, then we turn to food and rationalize eating more causing a binge. I get so overwhelmed with trying to stay away from the kitchen that I get so worn out from trying to find other things to do that I find my way in to the kitchen feeling like a failure from not being able to control myself. By that point, I am so depressed and just don't seem to care anymore.

I am not sure if any of my rambling makes sense. I have not really been able to find a way to steer clear from the binge. My husband is around at night so I am not able to do it at night anymore, which is a blessing. Also, with a newborn, there is no chance to binge later at night after my husband is asleep. She is up every two hours and I am so exhausted that I just don't care to think about binging. Solution: Wear yourself down! j/k

[kb3]

Wow Nic and Jaclyn, I can totally relate to both your posts. It is definately a destructive cycle, but one that we can and have to break!!!!! (giving up will NEVER be an option)

That feeling of just 'not caring' is so horrible, I call it 'when my shutters come down' it is a very odd feeling like, who cares anyway? I kind of belittle myself until I am like 'I feel crap so I just as well be done with it, do it and have 'real' reason to feel crap??? So self destructive when in 'binge mode'!

You bought back memories of when my children were little, I remember too being so busy and oh so tired at night time that as soon as they were in bed, I was too..... however there will be no more babies for me so I will have to plod through and battle the night time temptations if and when they arise again another way!

I too have had that 'I am fixed' feeling, then totally threw me more than ever when I had a relapse!

BUT I feel that I am learning so much, and huge improvements already been made, that on here we can ask and we can share without being condemed or belittled?? and that between us all we can one day say goodbye to any self destruct behaviour!

Our bodies are wonderful clever things, our minds have got to love them more!

It is going to happen ladies. We will figure it out somehow!

[fit mom of 4]

I think we all get cravings to eat at night for various reasons. One may be not getting enough protein and fat during the day. Another is DEFINITELY bordome (that's for sure my problem), could be the comfort or coziness of curling up to watch Grey's with some yummies... whatever the reasons are, they are habits that we have to try and break. The "binging" comes because we keep telling ourselves "no". If you have a protein shake or some cottage cheese later in the eve (if you eat dinner at 6 have this at 8) no real reason for hunger after that, then try and talk to yourself and understand what you are REALLY feeling. Are you happy, mad, sad, bored, alone...THIRSTY??

I have battled the night time munchies and still do (why you think I am writing on here now ). If you read my confessional about my life in my journal you know that night eating was what started my weight gain as a child...
It is a struggle I am dealing with daily but the key here is I am dealing with it. The more you DON'T eat at night (bad stuff) the less you will eventually want it.
Takes time and alot of mental work and setting yourself up for success (like if Jaclyn... having your hubby there helps-AMAZING... it is the same with me) You gotta find something that works for you!

[Mloveb]

Usually at night for me. But while listening to Leigh Peele on the Fitcast she said if you like to eat at night that is when you need to eat. So what I did was load up my dinner with veggies. I'll make a cabbage soup and have a load of broccli or some other veggie to fill me up. I also have a prebed shake and banana and it has helped control my night time eating big time. If I miss them or do things differently I will get cravings but this is what works good for me now.

[Nic902]

Originally Posted by Mloveb

Usually at night for me. But while listening to Leigh Peele on the Fitcast she said if you like to eat at night that is when you need to eat. So what I did was load up my dinner with veggies. I'll make a cabbage soup and have a load of broccli or some other veggie to fill me up. I also have a prebed shake and banana and it has helped control my night time eating big time. If I miss them or do things differently I will get cravings but this is what works good for me now.

I eat 'dessert' at 9 every night...I look forward to it when I'm chillin on the couch watching tv

[Mloveb]

Originally Posted by Nic902

I eat 'dessert' at 9 every night...I look forward to it when I'm chillin on the couch watching tv

Oh yeah I started doing that too recently. A small fruit cobbler kinda thing
my new one this week is 75 grams strawberrys (frozen but thawed so I can scoop uo some juice with it) and 75 grams of peaches and in better the layer I put 1 gram of sucat. My topping is 2 tablespoons ( about 15 grams) WW flour 2 grams of sucat mix with 1 table spook of egg and water pour on top and bake until bubbly and topping is browned, it is quite good and satisfies any sweet tooth I had.

[Nic902]

Damn girl...you get all fancy I just had Chocolate Casien, WF carmel dip and almonds...so simple, yet so yummy!

[BootyBootyBooty]

GAH. This happened to me last night. I was definitely self-medicating. I knew why I was doing it when I was doing it, but I couldn't stop myself. It was all lovely, clean food, but I got too full. That is the WORST feeling in the world!

[Nic902]

Originally Posted by BootyBootyBooty

GAH. This happened to me last night. I was definitely self-medicating. I knew why I was doing it when I was doing it, but I couldn't stop myself. It was all lovely, clean food, but I got too full. That is the WORST feeling in the world!

I know that feeling...it sucks feeling helpless. I hope you're feeling better today